Thought you guys might like this helicopter picture
Thought you guys might like this
20th Feb 2005, 12:32
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jellycopter
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Peter,
Could it have been a Silvercraft SH4?
Seems to match most of your criteria and there are a few flying in Europe.
J
20th Feb 2005, 15:17
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Jelly ,
Ya -Hoo, paint it dark green or blue and thats the one I am nearly certain.
Is it "Old" or just rare?
Thank you Jelly I had nearly given up!
PeterRB
20th Feb 2005, 17:07
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Encyclo
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How about the good old one bladed helicopter
Oh yes, and saw this driving through Mojave last week
Any idea what movie we will be seing this in?
20th Feb 2005, 17:44
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Hang on a mo... Dark green or blue?
We're not talking ex AAC Scout / Navy Wasp are we? The shape is certainly very similar to the Silvercraft.
http://www.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?...uchars+Airshow
Aah! just noticed T&B already suggested it, but there is at least one Scout on the civvie register.
Last edited by ShyTorque; 20th Feb 2005 at 18:01.
20th Feb 2005, 18:57
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Hey Encyclo,
That Mojave ship is from the movie "The 6th Day" (Schwarzenegger, 2000).
Image here (I hope)
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20th Feb 2005, 20:52
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ShyTorque,
According to G-INFO , these are the registered Scouts in the UK
Reg/Serial No/Type/photo
G-BWHU R F9517 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BWJW R F9705 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BXRR R F9740 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-BXRS R F9741 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BYKJ R F9696 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BYRX R F9640 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-CBUH R F9475 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-CRUM R F9712 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-KAXL R F9715 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-NOTY R F9630 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-ONEB R F9761 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-SCTA R F9701 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-SROE R F9508 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
Could easily be mistaken for Jellycopters Silvercraft don't you think?
Just checked.
No \'Silvercraft SH4\', \'Silvercraft\' or \'SH4\' registered in UK.
All registered SH-4 s can be found here .
SS
Last edited by SilsoeSid; 20th Feb 2005 at 21:36.
21st Feb 2005, 06:06
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SSS,
Was a piston powered craft, not a turb, but I agree the profile is very similar, the Silvercraft looks quite a strong little craft especially with its six potter, doubt again in my mind for I was certain the sound denoted a 4 pot engine, unless this six cylinder job has a strange pipe system!
PeterRB
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21st Feb 2005, 09:29
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I guess this will remain a mystery, especially as vfrpilot is now convinced it was a Silvercraft. (which only has 2 blades and a low mounted tail rotor, contrary to the recognition features given!)
However, a little more searching found these movements,
Blackpool on the day in question;
Tuesday 08 February 2005
Aircraft I.D. Aircraft Type Code Arr Dep Flight I.D. Notes From To
EI-CSE B738 0733 0805 FR 2752/275H - Stansted Stansted
- SWM 0756 0900 CPH 010/011 - Le Havre Le Havre
G-VSBC Be 200 1050 1541 VSB 02 - - -
EC-IDT B738 1053 1207 AEA 235/236 - Tenerife South Tenerife South
G-AVGI PA 28 1109 1148 - - - -
G-JDBC PA 34 1223 1607 JD 01W/Y/Z Training - -
G-OOGS GA-7 ILS 1225 - - - -
XX230 Hawk ILS 1415 VYT 45 - - -
G-RVRA PA 28 1507 n/s - To Pool Av'n - -
G-BOGC Ce 152 n/s 1531 - - - -
G-BTFF Ce 310 1701 n/s - - - -
EI-DAZ B738 2011 2044 FR 2756/2757 - Stansted Stansted
Manchester non-scheduled.
Tuesday 8 February 2005
Aircraft I.D. Aircraft Type Operator Flight I.D. Arr Dep Notes
9H-AEI A320 Air Malta KM 4218 n/s 06:11 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 811 n/s 06:44 -
N527EW Ce 501 Executive AVB 5EW 08:39 n/s -
N815PA CL 604 Executive - 09:19 11:2x Farnborough Weather Diversion
G-SFSG Beech 90 Private - 09:56 - -
G-OLDF LJ 45 Executive GDA 72C/72D 12:35 17:19 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 812 12:59 - -
9H-AEI A320 Air Malta KM 4219 15:22 - -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 809 - 15:37 -
E3-AAO B763 Eritrean Airlines ERT 1120 18:04 - -
CS-DKA G4 Executive NJE 008P 18:48 n/s -
EI-DAT B738 Ryanair FR 558/559 20:58 21:40 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 810 21:59 - -
475 C130 Hercules Saudi Air Force RSAF 901 - n/s -
CS-DNV BAe 125 Executive - n/s n/s -
SE-RDF MD 80 Viking Airlines - n/s n/s -
B-18708 B744F China Airlines Cargo - n/s n/s -
but of course it could have been going anywhere.
Although it does seem strange that an unknown Italian, French, Brazilian or even South African registered single engined piston powered, light helicopter should find itself on the way to the north of England. I'm surprised that nobody here knows about it.
Happy searching,
Sherlock Sid
21st Feb 2005, 18:58
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Sherlock,
I am impressed beyond belief, do you work for some secret gove depot or something like that,
Now then the thlot plickens, today I have seen the very helicopter that flew over my office, today the sun was shinning el mucho so this thing stood out well, it is blue with a silver streak it is slab sided and has a short boom with a cranked and elevated Tail rotor, but this is where I fear I may have been wrong it sounded today more like a turbine, but with a very noisey tail rotor system, it also appeared to have a very wide cab possibly capable of three abreast seating, it flew West to East, and later in reverse track, I feel that I have seen this at the Helitech last Sept and I think it was giving rides to prospective cutomers, so It may not be the "Old Machine" I think it is. It is on Skids as well
Is there a big Schweiser like I am describing!!??
PeterRB
21st Feb 2005, 19:40
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Schweizer 333
21st Feb 2005, 20:02
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Only one registered in the UK.
Seen at Barton
G-TAME Schweizer 333
11 February 2005
© Paul Tomlin
http://www.edendale.co.uk/ANW/BTN.HG12.html
G-INFO Record Number: 1 of 1 Search Again
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registration: G-TAME Current Reg. Date: 10/01/2005
Previous ID: N2119S First Reg. Date: 10/01/2005
Status: Registered De-Reg. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer: SCHWEIZER AIRCRAFT CORPORATION
Type: SCHWEIZER 269D
Serial No.: 0035A
Mode S (hex):
Popular Name: SCHWEIZER 333
Generic Name: 269
Aircraft Class: HELICOPTER
Engines: 1 - 1 x ALLISON 250-C20W
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ownership Status: Owned
Registered Owners: TOTAL AIR MANAGEMENT SERVICES LTD
SUITE D2, TERMINAL BUILDING
SHEFFIELD CITY AIRPORT, EUROPA LINK
SHEFFIELD
S9 1XZ
UNITED KINGDOM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MTOW: 1159kg Total Hours: Year Built: 2004
C of A Category: EASA STANDARD COFA C of A Expiry: 24/01/2008
21st Feb 2005, 21:18
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It may be of no relevance Peter, but while we were at the Burnley game on Sunday watching various East Lancastrians beat seven bells out of each other in pub beer gardens there was a helicopter diddling around Pendle, Whalley area at low level. If they Prune and recognise themselves could it they have been one and the same?
22nd Feb 2005, 06:29
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I read in Flight International that John Tickener's outfit have bought several (4?) of these 333s for their powerline inspection contract. You might be seeing a few more of these around, Peter.
22nd Feb 2005, 07:46
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Them new Schwitzer turbine thingy's is gonna be based at Sheffield (in hanger 1).
But perhaps it was a Scout after all ....
22nd Feb 2005, 11:20
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My money, @ 13/1 (registered a/c), is on a Scout.
Leather seats and a Rolls Royce engine, still the Queen of the skies.
Now then, if Vfrpilotpb can get some sort of picture next time its around.......
SS
22nd Feb 2005, 11:39
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perhaps you could have that Gazelle standing ready to chase it Peter.
h-r
20th Feb 2005, 12:32#69 (permalink)
jellycopter
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Peter,
Could it have been a Silvercraft SH4?
Seems to match most of your criteria and there are a few flying in Europe.
J
20th Feb 2005, 15:17#70 (permalink)
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Jelly ,
Ya -Hoo, paint it dark green or blue and thats the one I am nearly certain.
Is it "Old" or just rare?
Thank you Jelly I had nearly given up!
PeterRB
20th Feb 2005, 17:07#71 (permalink)
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How about the good old one bladed helicopter
Oh yes, and saw this driving through Mojave last week
Any idea what movie we will be seing this in?
20th Feb 2005, 17:44#72 (permalink)
ShyTorque
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Hang on a mo... Dark green or blue?
We're not talking ex AAC Scout / Navy Wasp are we? The shape is certainly very similar to the Silvercraft.
http://www.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?...uchars+Airshow
Aah! just noticed T&B already suggested it, but there is at least one Scout on the civvie register.
Last edited by ShyTorque; 20th Feb 2005 at 18:01.
20th Feb 2005, 18:57#73 (permalink)
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Hey Encyclo,
That Mojave ship is from the movie "The 6th Day" (Schwarzenegger, 2000).
Image here (I hope)
Last edited by Flingwing207; 20th Feb 2005 at 19:16.
20th Feb 2005, 20:52#74 (permalink)
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ShyTorque,
According to G-INFO , these are the registered Scouts in the UK
Reg/Serial No/Type/photo
G-BWHU R F9517 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BWJW R F9705 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BXRR R F9740 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-BXRS R F9741 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BYKJ R F9696 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BYRX R F9640 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-CBUH R F9475 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-CRUM R F9712 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-KAXL R F9715 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-NOTY R F9630 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-ONEB R F9761 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-SCTA R F9701 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-SROE R F9508 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
Could easily be mistaken for Jellycopters Silvercraft don't you think?
Just checked.
No \'Silvercraft SH4\', \'Silvercraft\' or \'SH4\' registered in UK.
All registered SH-4 s can be found here .
SS
Last edited by SilsoeSid; 20th Feb 2005 at 21:36.
21st Feb 2005, 06:06#75 (permalink)
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SSS,
Was a piston powered craft, not a turb, but I agree the profile is very similar, the Silvercraft looks quite a strong little craft especially with its six potter, doubt again in my mind for I was certain the sound denoted a 4 pot engine, unless this six cylinder job has a strange pipe system!
PeterRB
Vfr
21st Feb 2005, 09:29#76 (permalink)
SilsoeSid
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I guess this will remain a mystery, especially as vfrpilot is now convinced it was a Silvercraft. (which only has 2 blades and a low mounted tail rotor, contrary to the recognition features given!)
However, a little more searching found these movements,
Blackpool on the day in question;
Tuesday 08 February 2005
Aircraft I.D. Aircraft Type Code Arr Dep Flight I.D. Notes From To
EI-CSE B738 0733 0805 FR 2752/275H - Stansted Stansted
- SWM 0756 0900 CPH 010/011 - Le Havre Le Havre
G-VSBC Be 200 1050 1541 VSB 02 - - -
EC-IDT B738 1053 1207 AEA 235/236 - Tenerife South Tenerife South
G-AVGI PA 28 1109 1148 - - - -
G-JDBC PA 34 1223 1607 JD 01W/Y/Z Training - -
G-OOGS GA-7 ILS 1225 - - - -
XX230 Hawk ILS 1415 VYT 45 - - -
G-RVRA PA 28 1507 n/s - To Pool Av'n - -
G-BOGC Ce 152 n/s 1531 - - - -
G-BTFF Ce 310 1701 n/s - - - -
EI-DAZ B738 2011 2044 FR 2756/2757 - Stansted Stansted
Manchester non-scheduled.
Tuesday 8 February 2005
Aircraft I.D. Aircraft Type Operator Flight I.D. Arr Dep Notes
9H-AEI A320 Air Malta KM 4218 n/s 06:11 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 811 n/s 06:44 -
N527EW Ce 501 Executive AVB 5EW 08:39 n/s -
N815PA CL 604 Executive - 09:19 11:2x Farnborough Weather Diversion
G-SFSG Beech 90 Private - 09:56 - -
G-OLDF LJ 45 Executive GDA 72C/72D 12:35 17:19 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 812 12:59 - -
9H-AEI A320 Air Malta KM 4219 15:22 - -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 809 - 15:37 -
E3-AAO B763 Eritrean Airlines ERT 1120 18:04 - -
CS-DKA G4 Executive NJE 008P 18:48 n/s -
EI-DAT B738 Ryanair FR 558/559 20:58 21:40 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 810 21:59 - -
475 C130 Hercules Saudi Air Force RSAF 901 - n/s -
CS-DNV BAe 125 Executive - n/s n/s -
SE-RDF MD 80 Viking Airlines - n/s n/s -
B-18708 B744F China Airlines Cargo - n/s n/s -
but of course it could have been going anywhere.
Although it does seem strange that an unknown Italian, French, Brazilian or even South African registered single engined piston powered, light helicopter should find itself on the way to the north of England. I'm surprised that nobody here knows about it.
Happy searching,
Sherlock Sid
21st Feb 2005, 18:58#77 (permalink)
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Sherlock,
I am impressed beyond belief, do you work for some secret gove depot or something like that,
Now then the thlot plickens, today I have seen the very helicopter that flew over my office, today the sun was shinning el mucho so this thing stood out well, it is blue with a silver streak it is slab sided and has a short boom with a cranked and elevated Tail rotor, but this is where I fear I may have been wrong it sounded today more like a turbine, but with a very noisey tail rotor system, it also appeared to have a very wide cab possibly capable of three abreast seating, it flew West to East, and later in reverse track, I feel that I have seen this at the Helitech last Sept and I think it was giving rides to prospective cutomers, so It may not be the "Old Machine" I think it is. It is on Skids as well
Is there a big Schweiser like I am describing!!??
PeterRB
21st Feb 2005, 19:40#78 (permalink)
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21st Feb 2005, 20:02#79 (permalink)
SilsoeSid
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Only one registered in the UK.
Seen at Barton
G-TAME Schweizer 333
11 February 2005
© Paul Tomlin
http://www.edendale.co.uk/ANW/BTN.HG12.html
G-INFO Record Number: 1 of 1 Search Again
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registration: G-TAME Current Reg. Date: 10/01/2005
Previous ID: N2119S First Reg. Date: 10/01/2005
Status: Registered De-Reg. Date:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer: SCHWEIZER AIRCRAFT CORPORATION
Type: SCHWEIZER 269D
Serial No.: 0035A
Mode S (hex):
Popular Name: SCHWEIZER 333
Generic Name: 269
Aircraft Class: HELICOPTER
Engines: 1 - 1 x ALLISON 250-C20W
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ownership Status: Owned
Registered Owners: TOTAL AIR MANAGEMENT SERVICES LTD
SUITE D2, TERMINAL BUILDING
SHEFFIELD CITY AIRPORT, EUROPA LINK
SHEFFIELD
S9 1XZ
UNITED KINGDOM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MTOW: 1159kg Total Hours: Year Built: 2004
C of A Category: EASA STANDARD COFA C of A Expiry: 24/01/2008
21st Feb 2005, 21:18#80 (permalink)
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It may be of no relevance Peter, but while we were at the Burnley game on Sunday watching various East Lancastrians beat seven bells out of each other in pub beer gardens there was a helicopter diddling around Pendle, Whalley area at low level. If they Prune and recognise themselves could it they have been one and the same?
22nd Feb 2005, 06:29#81 (permalink)
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I read in Flight International that John Tickener's outfit have bought several (4?) of these 333s for their powerline inspection contract. You might be seeing a few more of these around, Peter.
22nd Feb 2005, 07:46#82 (permalink)
helicopter-redeye
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Them new Schwitzer turbine thingy's is gonna be based at Sheffield (in hanger 1).
But perhaps it was a Scout after all ....
22nd Feb 2005, 11:20#83 (permalink)
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My money, @ 13/1 (registered a/c), is on a Scout.
Leather seats and a Rolls Royce engine, still the Queen of the skies.
Now then, if Vfrpilotpb can get some sort of picture next time its around.......
SS
22nd Feb 2005, 11:39#84 (permalink)
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perhaps you could have that Gazelle standing ready to chase it Peter.
h-r
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